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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@m. naz

1. If what they claimed the word Allah is God in the arabic language, then &#039;Allah&#039; is not exclusively referred to the Muslim&#039;s God.
2. &quot;All religion has their own name for their own god.&quot; I don&#039;t quite get it, what other name besides GOD? 

p.s. put it simple, many religion different path to enlightenment, same God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@m. naz</p>
<p>1. If what they claimed the word Allah is God in the arabic language, then &#8216;Allah&#8217; is not exclusively referred to the Muslim&#8217;s God.<br />
2. &#8220;All religion has their own name for their own god.&#8221; I don&#8217;t quite get it, what other name besides GOD? </p>
<p>p.s. put it simple, many religion different path to enlightenment, same God.</p>
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		<title>By: m. naz</title>
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		<dc:creator>m. naz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderfull explanation. I am a mix of all the races in malaysia such as Chinnesse, Indian and Malay. i respect ur point of view.
But, Allah is a respectfull word tht is use for malays or islamic religion. All religion has their own name for their own god. We Malays, respect that. MALAYSIA, is a country that has already MERDEKA. We already prevented war against other countries. but war is happening in our own country. PEACE. PEACE. PEACE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderfull explanation. I am a mix of all the races in malaysia such as Chinnesse, Indian and Malay. i respect ur point of view.<br />
But, Allah is a respectfull word tht is use for malays or islamic religion. All religion has their own name for their own god. We Malays, respect that. MALAYSIA, is a country that has already MERDEKA. We already prevented war against other countries. but war is happening in our own country. PEACE. PEACE. PEACE.</p>
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		<title>By: ik</title>
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		<dc:creator>ik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘Allah’ was already being used by Arab pagans long before Prophet Mohammed raised Islam. Therefore it is wrong to say that ‘Allah’ belong to Islam only. http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘Allah’ was already being used by Arab pagans long before Prophet Mohammed raised Islam. Therefore it is wrong to say that ‘Allah’ belong to Islam only. <a href="http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allah-pre-islamic-origin.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: amin</title>
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		<dc:creator>amin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam debat...APA TUJUAN UTAMA pihak Herald terigin sangat menggunakan perkataan Allah?Kenapa isu ini baru sahaja timbul?bukankah selama ini penganut agama kristian biasa dengan perkataan Tuhan?Apakah perkataan tuhan atau God yang digunakan selama ini oleh penganut kristian tidak cukup sempurna untuk menggambarkan tuhan mereka selama ini...apa pula sifat-sifat yang boleh membezakan antara perkataan GOD,...TUHAN...dan ALLAH menurut syariat agama kristian? dalam islam...semua penganutnya dalam pelbagai bangsa dan bahasa pertuturan tempatan menyebut tuhan mereka dengan satu perkataan sahaja iaitu ALLAH...walau apapun hujah-hujah yang dikemukakan...saya melihat pihak kristian semakin bercelaru dalam  mencari kebenaran tentang sifat TUHAN dalam syariat mereka...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam debat&#8230;APA TUJUAN UTAMA pihak Herald terigin sangat menggunakan perkataan Allah?Kenapa isu ini baru sahaja timbul?bukankah selama ini penganut agama kristian biasa dengan perkataan Tuhan?Apakah perkataan tuhan atau God yang digunakan selama ini oleh penganut kristian tidak cukup sempurna untuk menggambarkan tuhan mereka selama ini&#8230;apa pula sifat-sifat yang boleh membezakan antara perkataan GOD,&#8230;TUHAN&#8230;dan ALLAH menurut syariat agama kristian? dalam islam&#8230;semua penganutnya dalam pelbagai bangsa dan bahasa pertuturan tempatan menyebut tuhan mereka dengan satu perkataan sahaja iaitu ALLAH&#8230;walau apapun hujah-hujah yang dikemukakan&#8230;saya melihat pihak kristian semakin bercelaru dalam  mencari kebenaran tentang sifat TUHAN dalam syariat mereka&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In English,
YAHWEH -&gt; Lord/Jehovah
ELOHIM -&gt; God 

in Malay,
YAHWEH -&gt; Tuhan
ELOHIM -&gt; Allah (cognate)

Hebrew has more names for God than Malay, what&#039;s wrong with importing? Even English uses Jehovah sometimes.

The arguments in the post are more for rhetoric than debate. Why do you use Christ/Messiah (Greek/Hebrew) instead of Anointed-One (En), and Jesus (Greek Iesous, Hebrew Yehoshua) rather than The-Lord-Rescues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In English,<br />
YAHWEH -&gt; Lord/Jehovah<br />
ELOHIM -&gt; God </p>
<p>in Malay,<br />
YAHWEH -&gt; Tuhan<br />
ELOHIM -&gt; Allah (cognate)</p>
<p>Hebrew has more names for God than Malay, what&#8217;s wrong with importing? Even English uses Jehovah sometimes.</p>
<p>The arguments in the post are more for rhetoric than debate. Why do you use Christ/Messiah (Greek/Hebrew) instead of Anointed-One (En), and Jesus (Greek Iesous, Hebrew Yehoshua) rather than The-Lord-Rescues?</p>
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		<title>By: arah Shuqaiq KSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>arah Shuqaiq KSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear Calvin,

Thank you for an excellence article.

2:255 (Y. Ali) Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

Let observe what in Malay

2:255 (Malay) &quot;Allah, tidak ada Tuhan (yang berhak disembah) melainkan Dia Yang Hidup kekal lagi terus menerus mengurus (makhluk-Nya); tidak mengantuk dan tidak tidur. Kepunyaan-Nya apa yang di langit dan di bumi. Tiada yang dapat memberi syafaat di sisi Allah tanpa izin-Nya. Allah mengetahui apa-apa yang di hadapan mereka dan di belakang mereka, dan mereka tidak mengetahui apa-apa dari ilmu Allah melainkan apa yang dikehendaki-Nya. Kursi Allah meliputi langit dan bumi. Dan Allah tidak merasa berat memelihara keduanya, dan Allah Maha Tinggi lagi Maha Besar.&quot;

Let us analyse another very important verse of the Al Quran

112:1 (Y. Ali) Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; 

112:2 (Y. Ali) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 
 

112:3 (Y. Ali) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; 

112:4 (Y. Ali) And there is none like unto Him. 


Let observe that there are Tuhan and there are Allah written.


112:1 (Malay) &quot;Katakanlah: &quot;&quot;Dia-lah Allah, Yang Maha Esa,&quot;

112:2 (Malay) Allah adalah Tuhan yang bergantung kepada-Nya segala sesuatu.

112:3 (Malay) Dia tiada beranak dan tiada pula diperanakkan,


112:4 (Malay) &quot;dan tidak ada seorang pun yang setara dengan Dia&quot;&quot;.&quot;
 
Let understand the most important commandment from Jesus which was neglected
by some Christians and Muslims

The Greatest Commandment and the Parable of the Good Samaritan

Jesus engaged in much public debate with the Pharisees and Sadducees, two Jewish factions that opposed Him and his teachings. It was during one of these debates that Jesus stated the Greatest Commandment: 

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, &quot;Of all the commandments, which is the most important?&quot; &quot;The most important one,&quot; answered Jesus, &quot;is this: &#039;Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.&#039; The second is this: &#039;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#039; There is no commandment greater than these.&quot; (NIV, Mark 12:28-31).

&quot;Love your neighbor as yourself&quot; was part of the Old Testament law (Leviticus 19:18). But the Jewish teachers had often interpreted &quot;neighbor&quot; to include only people of their own nationality and religion. In Luke, the man who asked Jesus about the greatest of the commandments wanted justification for that interpretation, so he asked Jesus, &quot;And who is my neighbor?&quot; In response, Jesus told the famous Parable of the Good Samaritan. A Jewish man had been beaten by robbers and left half dead beside the road. Two different religious leaders passed by but did nothing to help. Finally, a Samaritan man came by and took pity on the injured man. He gave him water, patched up his wounds, put him on his own donkey and took him to an inn where he could rest and recover: 

On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. &quot;Teacher,&quot; he asked, &quot;what must I do to inherit eternal life?&quot; &quot;What is written in the Law?&quot; he replied. &quot;How do you read it?&quot; He answered: &quot;&#039;Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind&#039;; and, &#039;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#039;&quot; &quot;You have answered correctly,&quot; Jesus replied. &quot;Do this and you will live.&quot; But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, &quot;And who is my neighbor?&quot; In reply Jesus said: &quot;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper. &#039;Look after him,&#039; he said, &#039;and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.&#039; &quot;Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?&quot; The expert in the law replied, &quot;The one who had mercy on him.&quot; Jesus told him, &quot;Go and do likewise.&quot; (NIV, Luke 10:25-37 ) 

Calvin, do you know Jesus didn&#039;t called the Lord &quot; Father&quot; or &quot;Johavah&quot; but &quot; Allah&quot;

Let see the prove

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSG0YzlGB8
THE Passion of Christ, JESUS CALLED GOD: ALLAH

Isn&#039;t that very interesting?

May Almighty God the Creator bless us and show us the truth.

AMEEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear Calvin,</p>
<p>Thank you for an excellence article.</p>
<p>2:255 (Y. Ali) Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).</p>
<p>Let observe what in Malay</p>
<p>2:255 (Malay) &#8220;Allah, tidak ada Tuhan (yang berhak disembah) melainkan Dia Yang Hidup kekal lagi terus menerus mengurus (makhluk-Nya); tidak mengantuk dan tidak tidur. Kepunyaan-Nya apa yang di langit dan di bumi. Tiada yang dapat memberi syafaat di sisi Allah tanpa izin-Nya. Allah mengetahui apa-apa yang di hadapan mereka dan di belakang mereka, dan mereka tidak mengetahui apa-apa dari ilmu Allah melainkan apa yang dikehendaki-Nya. Kursi Allah meliputi langit dan bumi. Dan Allah tidak merasa berat memelihara keduanya, dan Allah Maha Tinggi lagi Maha Besar.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let us analyse another very important verse of the Al Quran</p>
<p>112:1 (Y. Ali) Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; </p>
<p>112:2 (Y. Ali) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; </p>
<p>112:3 (Y. Ali) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; </p>
<p>112:4 (Y. Ali) And there is none like unto Him. </p>
<p>Let observe that there are Tuhan and there are Allah written.</p>
<p>112:1 (Malay) &#8220;Katakanlah: &#8220;&#8221;Dia-lah Allah, Yang Maha Esa,&#8221;</p>
<p>112:2 (Malay) Allah adalah Tuhan yang bergantung kepada-Nya segala sesuatu.</p>
<p>112:3 (Malay) Dia tiada beranak dan tiada pula diperanakkan,</p>
<p>112:4 (Malay) &#8220;dan tidak ada seorang pun yang setara dengan Dia&#8221;".&#8221;</p>
<p>Let understand the most important commandment from Jesus which was neglected<br />
by some Christians and Muslims</p>
<p>The Greatest Commandment and the Parable of the Good Samaritan</p>
<p>Jesus engaged in much public debate with the Pharisees and Sadducees, two Jewish factions that opposed Him and his teachings. It was during one of these debates that Jesus stated the Greatest Commandment: </p>
<p>One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, &#8220;Of all the commandments, which is the most important?&#8221; &#8220;The most important one,&#8221; answered Jesus, &#8220;is this: &#8216;Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.&#8217; The second is this: &#8216;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#8217; There is no commandment greater than these.&#8221; (NIV, Mark 12:28-31).</p>
<p>&#8220;Love your neighbor as yourself&#8221; was part of the Old Testament law (Leviticus 19:18). But the Jewish teachers had often interpreted &#8220;neighbor&#8221; to include only people of their own nationality and religion. In Luke, the man who asked Jesus about the greatest of the commandments wanted justification for that interpretation, so he asked Jesus, &#8220;And who is my neighbor?&#8221; In response, Jesus told the famous Parable of the Good Samaritan. A Jewish man had been beaten by robbers and left half dead beside the road. Two different religious leaders passed by but did nothing to help. Finally, a Samaritan man came by and took pity on the injured man. He gave him water, patched up his wounds, put him on his own donkey and took him to an inn where he could rest and recover: </p>
<p>On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. &#8220;Teacher,&#8221; he asked, &#8220;what must I do to inherit eternal life?&#8221; &#8220;What is written in the Law?&#8221; he replied. &#8220;How do you read it?&#8221; He answered: &#8220;&#8216;Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind&#8217;; and, &#8216;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#8217;&#8221; &#8220;You have answered correctly,&#8221; Jesus replied. &#8220;Do this and you will live.&#8221; But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, &#8220;And who is my neighbor?&#8221; In reply Jesus said: &#8220;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper. &#8216;Look after him,&#8217; he said, &#8216;and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.&#8217; &#8220;Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?&#8221; The expert in the law replied, &#8220;The one who had mercy on him.&#8221; Jesus told him, &#8220;Go and do likewise.&#8221; (NIV, Luke 10:25-37 ) </p>
<p>Calvin, do you know Jesus didn&#8217;t called the Lord &#8221; Father&#8221; or &#8220;Johavah&#8221; but &#8221; Allah&#8221;</p>
<p>Let see the prove</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSG0YzlGB8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSG0YzlGB8</a><br />
THE Passion of Christ, JESUS CALLED GOD: ALLAH</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that very interesting?</p>
<p>May Almighty God the Creator bless us and show us the truth.</p>
<p>AMEEN</p>
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		<description>@Nymous - I do see the point, those examples you gave a dialects not written language for books. For the Seksyen, it is borrowed from the English vocabulary because the Malay vocab is limited, however, for &#039;Allah&#039; we have &#039;Tuhan&#039;, we don&#039;t need to borrow the arabic word, do we?

Not to mention, if you see no wrong in mixing BM and Arabic, why don you walk the talk by mixing Arabic with English. Yes, tell you children: &quot;Pray to Allah for the food on the table!&quot; Can&#039;t say it out loud? something wrong? Can&#039;t Mix Arabic with english?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nymous &#8211; I do see the point, those examples you gave a dialects not written language for books. For the Seksyen, it is borrowed from the English vocabulary because the Malay vocab is limited, however, for &#8216;Allah&#8217; we have &#8216;Tuhan&#8217;, we don&#8217;t need to borrow the arabic word, do we?</p>
<p>Not to mention, if you see no wrong in mixing BM and Arabic, why don you walk the talk by mixing Arabic with English. Yes, tell you children: &#8220;Pray to Allah for the food on the table!&#8221; Can&#8217;t say it out loud? something wrong? Can&#8217;t Mix Arabic with english?</p>
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